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Tuesday, June 28, 2022

Trancas case, 6 flying saucers, humanoid silhouettes, a white substance composed of Calcium Carbonate (96.48%) and Potassium Carbonate (3.52%) in the footprint and the Naval Intelligence Service questionnaire on this event. Argentina, 1963.

The purpose of this post is not to explain the Trancas case in depth, but to translate and share the form of the Argentine Navy (more precisely, of its UFO division), completed by one of the witnesses that night.

There are several videos and web pages in English that deal with the case, therefore, I will only make a very brief summary of the case, which does not have all the details of it.

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October 21, 1963, Jolié Moreno (23 years old) and one of her sisters, Argentina (28), arrived with their young children from Rosario to San Miguel de Tucumán.

There they went to the "Santa Teresa" farm 3 km from the town of Trancas where they would join their parents, Antonio Moreno (72), Teresa Kairuz (63) and her sister Yolanda (32). They traveled because their husbands, both army officers, would participate in maneuvers and in the early morning they would leave by train from Tucumán to Salta, passing through Trancas.

Around 9 p.m, the maid Dora Guzmán (15), who was at the back of the house, appeared and insistently repeated that she saw lights on the railroad embankment, 100 meters from the farm

The sisters went to check on the lights she kept seeing. There were five lights, no less than 100 meters apart: three in front and two a little further to the northeast.

The women suspected that it could be a railway accident or a group of workers repairing the tracks, since to the north they could see silhouettes that seemed human and moved around the beams of light. They seemed to go from one side to the other in a large elongated tube with a compact, almost fluorescent light, which prevented seeing more in detail.

They approached to observe more in detail, until seeing a tenuous greenish luminosity. They thought it was a servant who worked on the farm, surnamed Huanca, who might be driving his truck. Therefore, they went to meet him towards the gate. The three of them walked towards the light and Yolanda directed the light of the flashlight towards the object and, at that precise moment, a ray of reddish light emerged from the object that hit their faces fully and blinded them momentarily, throwing them backwards. The one who suffered the most was the domestic maid, Martina, who was ahead, to the point that she had to be taken to the hospital later, with first and second degree burns.

The object had six rectangular windows and large divisions on the sides, like segments with exposed rivets on its apparently metallic surface. This was stated by the witnesses, who also reported that it produced a slight sound, similar to "turning off a fluorescent tube" and a strong smell of sulfur was perceived, which lasted for several hours.

The Police guarded the place for days. In addition, they asked Dr. Walter G. Tell of the Institute of Chemical Engineering of the University of Tucumán to examine a white powder found at the site of the lights. They were white balls that disintegrated when touched and were present in a radius of almost 30 meters. It turned out to be Calcium Carbonate (96,48%) with Potassium Carbonate (3,52%) impurities.

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The following is the form of the UFO Division of the Argentine Navy, of which Frigate Captain Omar Pagani was in command:

\"Unidentified Flying Objects Technical Information Form.\"

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SECRETARY OF THE NAVY

Naval Information Service

Unidentified Flying Objects Technical Information Form

The present questionnaire has been prepared so that you can give as much information as possible regarding unidentified flying objects you have observed, (UFO is understood to be any object in flight which, due to its performance and aerodynamic characteristics or unusual features, does not agree with known projectiles, airplanes, objects or atmospheric phenomena).

Try to answer as many questions as you can. The information you provide will be used for research purposes and considered confidential material. Your name will not be used without your permission in connection with any statement or publication made on the subject. This completed questionnaire should be sent to:

Naval Intelligence Service."

1 - When did you see the object? "21-10-1963"

2 - Time of day? "8:30 pm"

3 - Where were you when you saw the object? "Trancas, Tucumán."

4 - How long was the object in sight? "40 minutes."

Check what apply:

With appreciation "Certain" Almost certain Not very sure Conjectured

5 - What was the condition of the sky?

Day

Clear

Cloudy

"Night"

Clear

"Cloudy"

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6 - If you saw the object during the day, where was the Sun located when you looked at the object?

A) In front.

B) Behind.

C) To your right.

D) To your left.

E) At the Zenith.

F) Do not remember.

8 - If you saw the object during the night, what did you notice about the stars and the Moon?

Stars:

(a) "None."

b) A few.

c) Many.

d) Don't remember.

Moon:

a) Full Moonlight.

b) Less intense moonlight.

c) "No light, total darkness."

d) Do not remember.

9 - The object appeared:

(a) "As a light."

b) Bright.

c) Dark.

d) Do not remember.

If it appeared as a light, was it brighter than the brightest star?

"There were no stars, I can't say."

10 - The object:

a) Seemed to be still at any time?

"Yes."

No.

Don't know.

b) Suddenly accelerated and sped away at some point?

Yes.

"No."

Don't know.

c) Did it break into pieces or explode?

Yes.

"No."

Don't know.

d) Did it emit smoke? "Fog"

"Yes."

No.

Don't know.

e) Change of brightness?

"Yes."

No.

Don't know.

f) Change of shape?

Yes.

"No."

Don't know.

g) Fulgurated or fluttered?

"Yes."

No.

Don't know.

h) Disappeared and reappeared?

Yes.

"No."

Do not know.

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11 - Was the object moving behind something, at some point, particularly a cloud?

Yes.

"No."

Don't know.

If you answered Yes, then say behind what:

12 - The object was moving in front of something, at some point, particularly a cloud?

Yes.

"No."

Don't know.

If you answered Yes, then say in front of what:

13 - The object looked like:

(a) "Solid."

b) Transparent.

c) Vapor.

d) Do not know.

14 - Did you observe the object through any of the following?

Lenses.

Sunglasses.

Windshields.

Window.

Binoculars.

Telescope.

Theolodite

Other. "Directly at first."

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15 - Say in a few words the following things about the object:

(a) Sound: "Barely audible high-pitched buzzing sound."

b) Color: "Aluminum."

16 - Draw a picture showing the shape of the object(s). Point out and include in your drawing any details of the object you saw such as wings, protrusion, etc., and especially exhaust trails or vapor trails. Put an arrow next to the drawing to show the direction of the object's movement:

"Fixed windows to the outside. Apparently a colored serpentine was spinning inside that made the light change colors constantly."

17 - The edges of the object were:

(a) Blurred or fuzzy.

b) Like a bright star.

c) "Clearly delineated"

d) Don't remember.

e) Other:

18 - If there was more than one object, then how many were there? "Six"

Draw a picture of how they were arranged and put an arrow to show the direction they were traveling:

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19 - Draw a picture showing the movement the object(s) made. Place an "A" at the beginning of the trajectory, a "B" at the end of the trajectory, and show any changes in direction during the trajectory.

"1 ship in the garden of the property".

20 - What size did the object appear to be to you when compared to one you are familiar with?

"Like a train"

21 - We want to know the angular dimension. Hold a match at an arm's length in line with a known object and see how much of the object is covered by the match head. If you performed the experiment at the time of the sighting, how much of the object would have been covered by the match head?

22 - Did the object disappear while you were observing it? If yes, how?

"The apparatus in front of the house (the one we observed the most) emitted a beam of light that seemed solid, as it did not leave (?) that, oriented to the South, turned 180º from South to North (by elevation). Upon reaching that point, the other devices and this one, started at the same time the march towards the East until it was lost behind the Medina hill."

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23 - In order for you to give as clear a picture as possible of what you saw, describe in your own words a common object or objects that, placed in the sky, give the same appearance as the object you saw.

"A bus."

24 - Where were you located when you saw the object?

a) Inside a building. "(In a second moment)"

b) In a car.

c) Outside. "(At the first moment)"

d) In an airplane.

e) At sea.

f) Other...

25 - You were:

(a) In the commercial center of a city.

b) In the residential center of a city.

c) "In the open countryside."

d) Near an airfield.

e) Flying over a city.

f) Flying over an open field.

g) Others....

26 - What were you doing when you saw the object and how did you happen to notice it?

"I was lying down, when I was called by service personnel to observe what appeared to be an accident on the railway tracks. Initially I saw something like two spotlights facing each other on the embankment, in whose beams silhouettes were passing.

As I left the house with the other family members (after our call) and provided with a flashlight, with the intention of going to the railway tracks (?) we saw a few meters away (at the garden gate) a faint greenish light (similar to the light of the mercury gas bulb that is going out) that we mistook for the truck of a laborer. We turned on the flashlight to illuminate it, finding a (?)

*****Note from me: Apparently Jolie was left with no more place to write on this page, so this text continues on one of the last pages of the form, but I don't want to break the order of the pages, so I'll leave another message below to let you know that there follows this text*****

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27 - If you were moving in a car or other vehicle at the time, complete the following questions:

In what direction were you moving?

a) North.

b) Northeast.

c) East.

d) Southeast.

e) South.

f) Southwest.

g) West.

h) Northwest.

At what speed were you moving?

Did you stop at any time while looking at the object?

Yes.

No.

28 - In which direction were you looking when you saw the object?

a) North.

b) "Northeast."

c) East.

d) Southeast.

e) South.

f) Southwest.

g) West.

h) Northwest.

i) Upward.

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29 - In which direction were you looking when you last saw the object?

a) North.

b) Northeast.

c) "East."

d) Southeast.

e) South.

f) Southwest.

g) West.

h) Northwest.

i) Upward.

30 - If you are familiar with azimuth (angular direction) terms, try to estimate the number of degrees the object was from true north (due east) and also the number of degrees it was above the horizon (elevation).

When it first appeared:

a) From true north: "15º"

b) From the horizon: "5º"

When it disappeared:

a) From true north

b) From the horizon: "30º"

31 - In the following diagram, imagine that you are at the indicated point. Place an "A" on the curved line to show the height of the object above the horizon when you first saw it. Place a "B" on the same curved line to show the height of the object above the horizon when you last saw it.

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32 - In the following diagram place an "A" in the position of the object when you saw it for the first time, and a "B" in its position when you saw it for the last time. Refer to the smaller diagram as an example of how the larger diagram should be completed.

33 - What were the weather conditions at the time you saw the object?

Clouds:

(a) Clear sky.

b) "Foggy."

c) Scattered clouds.

d) Dense or charged clouds.

Weather:

a) "Dry."

b) Foggy, drizzle or light rain.

c) Moderate or heavy rain.

d) Snow.

e) Do not remember.

34 - When and to whom did you notify that you had seen the object?

35 - Was anyone else with you at the time you saw the object?

"Yes"

No.

If yes, did they also see the object?

"Yes"

No.

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Please enter their names and addresses:

36 - Was this the first time you saw an object or objects like this?

"Yes"

No.

If No, when, where and under what circumstances did you see the others?

37 - In your opinion, what do you think was the object and what could have caused it?

"An unknown spacecraft"

38 - Do you think you can estimate the speed of the object?

Yes.

"No"

If yes, at what speed do you estimate?

39 - Do you think you can estimate how far away the object was from you?

"Yes"

No.

If yes, then how far away would you say it was?

"At first, about five meters away".

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40 - Physical Evidence Information. Immediately report the existence of physical evidence (either material or photographic).

Photographic:

  1. Fixed photographs. Submit negatives and two copies. Title the copies and negatives, or indicate the place, time and date of the incident.
  2. Motion film. Obtain the original film. Examine the film for apparent cuts, alterations, obliterations, or defects. In the report comment on any irregularities, particularly if received from other than the official source.
  3. Supplemental Photographic Information. Negatives and prints are often insufficient to provide certain valid data or to permit firm conclusions. Information that will aid in location, approximate distances, apparent size and nature of the object, probable speed, and movements, include:

(a) Type and brand of camera.

b) Type, focal length, and brand of lens.

c) Brand and type of film.

d) Shutter speed used.

e) Lens aperture used, i.e., the "f" point.

f) Filters used.

g) Base used, solid or tripod.

h) If a "lens hood" was used.

i) The exact direction the camera was pointing in relation to true North, and its angle with respect to the earth.

4) Other camera data. If supplementary information cannot be obtained, the minimum data required are the type of camera, maximum and minimum apertures and camera speeds.

5) Radar. Submit two copies of each still camera photographic copy. Title the radarscope photographic prints.

Note: If possible, develop the photographic film before sending it. If the film is shipped undeveloped, mark it visibly to indicate this fact. Undeveloped film has often been destroyed by exposure and handling during inspection en route to its final destination.

b) Material

Any Agency or Destination receiving suspected UFO material should safeguard it so as to avoid any deformation or alteration that might reduce its value for examination and analysis by the Naval Intelligence Service.

c) Photographs, Motion Picture Film and Negative Submissions.

Individuals often submit photographic or motion picture material as part of their UFO reports.

All submitted material will be returned to the interested parties, after completion of the necessary studies, analysis and copying by the Naval Intelligence Service.

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41 - Please provide the following information about yourself:

Last name: "Moreno Ebaich"

First Name: "Jolie"

Middle Name: "del Valle"

Street: "Leiva"

City: "Rosario"

County: "Rosario"

Province: "Santa Fé"

Phone;

Age: "24"

Marital Status: "Married"

Indicate any additional information about yourself including education that might be pertinent.

"I attended secondary school "Colegio Segundo Corazón" up to 3rd year and then (?)

42 - Date you completed this questionnaire:

Day: "29"

Month: "11"

Year: "64"

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TECHNICAL INFORMATION FORM ON UNIDENTIFIED FLYING OBJECTS

(Compendium of data)

So that your information can be filed and coded as accurately as possible, please use the space below to write a short description of the event you observed. You may repeat the information you have given in the questionnaire and add any additional comments, statements or diagrams that you feel are important. Try to present the details of the information in the order in which they occurred.

Name: "Jolie del Valle Moreno Ebaich".

Signature:

Date: "11-29-64"

Question No. 26:

**** Note from me: The text mentioned at the beginning of the form continues on this page. ****

... apparatus rising a short distance above the ground, giving off a white mist on its underside. When we turned on the flashlight it gave off towards us a beam of intense red light of great heat, which hit us in the face making us retreat to the interior of the house. The illuminated apparatus consisted of six windows inside which began to rotate with increasing speed something like a ribbon or serpentine that made the light of the windows change color constantly, giving off more color the greater the amount of fog at the bottom. The other apparatuses in their totality on the tracks more or less in a sector of a (?) of distance were illuminated, directing parallel rays of light towards the house and facilities, analyzing all the angles of the farm, the roof, etc."

"The closest one (the one in the garden) directed a beam of light to the barn 20 meters away from the house. Another one of the apparatuses, from above the embankment of the tracks, launched two parallel beams of light that when leaving the ship advanced slowly, like two gigantic pills through the fields, (?) to stop in the barn where the chickens were kept, for 40 minutes (it is then when (?) the hour).

The light that enveloped the house made the temperature inside unbearable and the children

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(who did not wake up) sweated profusely.

It is worth mentioning that the objects in their (?) elevation, which was at the height of the hill "Medina" (they were lost behind it) left the horizon tinged with red and white lights (like a city seen from an airplane) for more than an hour, (?) that the neighbor Francisco Cropiano could observe after we managed to wake him up.

It is double to clarify also, that while the apparatuses remained stationary, they wobbled on their axis, without stopping at any moment."

Question Nº 16:

Fixed windows to the outside.

It seems that a colored serpentine was spinning inside them, causing the light to change color constantly.

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"Buenos Aires, October 1, 1964.

Dear Madam:

As promised, I am sending you the forms printed by the Naval Intelligence Service for you to fill in the data of your observations of Unidentified Flying Objects. When you have filled it out, you may send it to the address indicated therein or to my own address. Omar R. Pagani, Cap. de Frag. -Naval War School - Avenida del Libertador nº 8071 or to Mr. Azeuy if you prefer.

And moving on to our favorite subject, I will tell you that next week we will connect with some people from the north of Tucuman, but we still do not know their identity, who according to what we have been informed have made some interesting observations. We will let you know when this happens, as your help in qualifying these people could be very useful, if you know them.

Madam, if it would be more convenient for you to send the forms to my mother's house in Rosario, you can do it, her address is 1140 Alvear St. - Rosario-.

I hope I have not disturbed your attention too much and while waiting for your reply, I send you my best regards, which I hope you will extend to your husband, whom I also hope to meet."

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"27-9-64

Details of the Trancas case, (?) results:

When she was in the garden with her sister, (?) without speaking so as not to wake the others, they thought that a very faint light of greenish color, was the reflection of the moon (which there was not) on the roof of a pickup truck of a stallholder who had just bought it and as he did not drive well he left it there in the garden, after a moment when she turned on the flashlight and directed her light towards that place she discovered the apparatus she describes in her report. He saw (?) quantity of "airplane rivets" that (?) in the upper part, at least 6 straight (?) (whenever (?)) and an upper dome, which was of (?) lit the dim greenish light that she had observed.

As remains where the UFO had been there was a flattened lettuce plantation, and a lot of small balls (1cm in diameter) very (?), white in color and that fell apart when touched. According to

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Mrs. Colotti, they were analyzed in the (?) of Tucumán and the report says that they are remains of Calcium with Magnesium in a state of great purity. ?

The mark on the lettuce planting (?) looks like a burn, but when sowing this year or rather when picking up the seed it was verified that in that area the soil would have been sterile."

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"Rosario 11-29-64

Mr.

Frigate Captain D. Omar R. Pagani.

Of my highest consideration.

In response to your courtesy of July 1st October, I enclose, duly completed, the forms that kind enough you send to me.

There is data that I cannot detail exactly because I do not have the elements of precision or related knowledge, otherwise except for the logical deficiencies that all the time that has elapsed brings (?), I think I have been quite objective in the data supplied.

I regret not having been able to cover what was requested before, due to the fact that I was absent from the city. Regarding your request to qualify various people to be questioned in the north of Tucuman, I will gladly send you my opinion, if I meet them, regarding them.

Likewise, for reasons of my husband's professional nature, at the end of the year we will leave Rosario, and very possibly we (?) in (?), in which case or another, I will send you my (?) address in order to maintain contact,

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in case at your discretion, (?) Without another particular, I take the opportunity to greet you on behalf of myself and my husband, with my highest consideration. Jolie M. Ebaich de Colotti."



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