Something that's been very interesting to me during my research of abductions is finding very specific details which independent persons report, and which find no parallel in fictional media depicting aliens and/or abductions. I explored one of these last year by comparing two reports involving the abductees being shown a sort of demonstration of a Phoenix's combustion and transformation into a worm. I found this commonality all the more remarkable because neither of the people were aware of the Phoenix myth, least of all the detail of the ash-worm.
More recently, on this forum, I compared several reports of people sensing or seeming to see real eyes behind the apparent eyes of Grey aliens.
I find these sorts of comparisons valuable because they potentially constitute a rebuttal to the claim that abductions are really a form of sleep paralysis, or the surfacing of unrelated trauma, which finds its outlet through an internalization of alien-related media (a significant and obvious question, among many others, is why such media would be the go-to compensatory outlet for countless people).
This explaining-away may have first occurred as a criticism of Betty and Barney Hill's abduction. I would draw special attention to the fact that the aliens in the TV program referred to here look very little like what either of the Hills described or drew. Such debunking attempts often gloss over details' specificity or their full range, preferring to deal in convenient generalities.
So, here two more sets of comparisons. These come from Raymond Fowler's The Watchers, David Jacobs' Secret Life, and Edith Fiore's Encounters.
The first is two abductees -- one, Betty, from The Watchers, the other, Catherine, from Encounters -- finding theirselves in a sort of terrarium or vivarium aboard a craft. Both women are confused as they recount this, and even more confused are the people listening to Betty, who ask a series of clarifying questions to avoid the problem of overlay or confused memories.
Betty: And we're just slowly moving on. [sighs] Ouch! Whew! Eyes hurt. It's like I've got something in my eyes. We're moving onward, and, [sighs] we're going through a door. Oh, it's beautiful! Oh my word! [a long pause]
Bob: What is so beautiful?
Betty: Oh my word! I'm in the woods. I don't know how I got here from there but I'm in the woods. [...] Oh, it's so green and beautiful. And there's a pond right there. And it's, it's just like, it's so beautiful.
Betty sees that there are fish swimming in the pond. After a while, the water in the pond swirls around and something at the bottom, a sort of drain, opens. The water and fish fall drain down into more water below. This seems to have a correlation with witnesses viewing UFOs sucking up or discharging water over lakes. Betty then reports that the shallow fills up again with new water -- perhaps water which has been sucked up from a body of water below. A number of other events occur here, but I will now move onto Catherine's account, which is less detailed and briefer.
Catherine found herself in a "forest . . . I'm confused but it's there. It's in the room, and there's like trees and rocks and dirt and things off to the left. I can see them from where I am. We're not going that way. We're going around to the right. How can I be in the forest?" Incredulous, Catherine exclaimed, "It doesn't make sense!" for although "there's forest all around" she could still see the curving walls of the ship. "It wouldn't have fit. It wouldn't work." After the regression she reflected that she "looked way off in the distance" and "could see walls, but it didn't make any sense in context." She said that the forest even smelled like one and contained pine trees. She estimated it was "high school gym size."
The next comparison, between abductees James (Secret Life) and Sandi (Encounters), involves a pool of jelly-like water which is bathed in. As Jacobs writes, "The liquid is clear and at first glance looks like water, but it is not water." This pseudo-water is contained in a large tank or small "swimming" pool.
James found himself looking at a large, oval pool of water, and the adolescent [offspring] urged him to get into it.
It's like, "We've got to get in the water." I'm like, "No, no, no . . ." She says, "It's not so bad," that's the impression I get. And then she gets in. The water's green.
Green?
Yeah, it's almost like luminescent. When I look at her, you can see the silhouette of her body. She's just standing in it.
When the procedure is over with, James is helped out of the water by two figures.
Is it hard to get out of there?
The water feels slimy almost, now. When I come out it's still on my body, it doesn't run off like water. You have to take your hands and slop it off.
So it doesn't have the same . . .
Consistency.
Now, consider Sandi's description.
Sandi: The stuff that felt like cotton was . . . was in a tub . . . was in a big, submarine-looking tub with a big hole in the top. And . . . [sighs] They put me in there and it felt so soft. It was . . . like . . . jelly, but it was dry. It was so weird. I thought . . . this feels so nice, but what is it. And they put me in there and I kept sinking down.
That's all for now! Hope some of you found this intriguing.
Submitted November 17, 2022 at 04:08PM by Abrbarzan https://ift.tt/TqCtGMJ
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